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Post by JustALurker on Jan 29, 2012 15:50:44 GMT -5
Golfdad- In another thread on this forum Richie metioned that Robert Rock is a MORAD student. Yes, he is. I can't remember the name of the teacher he works with over in England. But he has worked with Mac and his teacher is MORAD as well. 3JACK Mark Roe mentioned on the live coverage today Robert Rocks coach is Matt Belsham.
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Post by birlyshirly on Jan 29, 2012 17:13:25 GMT -5
Yep - winner's interview is "Solid as a Rock" at www1.skysports.com/golf/ At 3:00min mark, question is "who would you like to thank?"
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Post by burner on Jan 29, 2012 17:24:18 GMT -5
Golfdad- In another thread on this forum Richie metioned that Robert Rock is a MORAD student. Yes, he is. I can't remember the name of the teacher he works with over in England. But he has worked with Mac and his teacher is MORAD as well. 3JACK Matt Belsham is R.R's UK coach and Zimbabwean Senior Tour player, Tony Johnson has recently helped him with his short game. Source: R.R in his victory speech in Abu Dhabi.
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Post by richie3jack on Jan 29, 2012 17:42:26 GMT -5
Am I correct in assuming that what you consider "patently false" is "Richie's comment about money seekers"? What is "patently false" about it? Brian told me very directly in our phone conversations that making money from the website was the ONLY reason the website existed. That was why he could not have me there questioning him or promoting Kelvin. "It is a business" and "it has to be all about ME!!!" are direct quotes. That and whenever jerry1967 has asked him a question, he arrogantly shoots it down talking about 'looking at how big my bank account has become' and jerry 'must be jealous.' 3JACK
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Post by compassgolf on Jan 29, 2012 18:01:41 GMT -5
so for the record.....jeffy and richie run golf instruction websites altruistically and brian runs his for pure greed....gotcha, stooges
o'grady and bennet/plummer lessons are free and brian charges $1000 an hour - right?
and i'm convinced more today than ever that grober is mandrin - dr. grober doesn't want the stooges calling him and asking "lag" questions....very understandable
why do you guys have so much hatred in your hearts? - is it the forum member numbers? is it the constant bashing the media gives your ungolflike motions? is it the fact that no matter how much you work out and how much you ER, you can't fly it 220?......there have got to be some reasons.....jeffy, you should probably consider releasing the tapes of your most recent counseling session so we can understand the anger........take a breath and everything will be OK
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Post by compassgolf on Jan 29, 2012 18:15:32 GMT -5
jeffy, richie's golf swing forum has had 1 post in three days.....today your ban is up - he desperately needs you....will you be a team player and help him?
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Post by richie3jack on Jan 29, 2012 19:51:07 GMT -5
so for the record.....jeffy and richie run golf instruction websites altruistically and brian runs his for pure greed....gotcha, stooges o'grady and bennet/plummer lessons are free and brian charges $1000 an hour - right? I never said that. I just said that Brian is not a 'truth seeker', he's a 'money seeker.' If he was seeking for the truth, he wouldn't resort to childish games, insults and constant attempts to censor people. You keep neglecting that my forum and blog represent practically countless types of teachers and theories. From Shawn Clement to MORAD to S&T (who, BTW do not get along with each other), Kelvin, TGM, AimPoint Golf, Geoff Mangum, Sean Foley, SITD, SliceFixer and even Brian himself. I have never seen dime one from any instructor. I don't have a problem with anybody making a lot of money, I just don't agree with the attempts to label themselves as martyrs. Dr. Grober says that he's not mandrin and I believe him. That and mandrin's foolish mistakes and aping nmgolfer's work and claiming it as his own should set that straight. I didn't quite believe Finney when he tried to tell nmgolfer and myself this. I'm not sure what his motives are. He's just not smart enough to be coy. But, they have been backing a plagiarist. They made their own bed...now they get to lie in the wet spot. 3JACK
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Post by Jeff Martin on Jan 29, 2012 20:59:54 GMT -5
so for the record.....jeffy and richie run golf instruction websites altruistically and brian runs his for pure greed....gotcha, stooges
Mike, running a website like this costs nothing. I'm spending no more time "running it" than I spent posting on various forums in the past. And where is the "money" to me coming from? I'm not selling anything and have no "revenue sharing arrangements" with Kelvin or anyone else. Sorry, but after 30 years on Wall Street, I can afford this.
As for Brian, he was unapologetic about his motives. Why do they concern you?
why do you guys have so much hatred in your hearts?
Is that a serious question?
Mike, if you want to engage on a substantive level, bring it on. Otherwise, you're just wasting everybody's time.
Jeff
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Post by Lurker on Jan 30, 2012 10:53:18 GMT -5
Jeff, you're not a golf instructor correct? Why should anyone take what you say about golf swng instruction anymore seriously than the local weatherman? What's your knowledge level, handicap, etc? Not trying to be combative. Just trying to understand where you are coming from. And why did you leave richie's site?
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Post by richie3jack on Jan 30, 2012 11:36:50 GMT -5
Jeffy didn't 'leave' my site. I had to suspend his account for 2 weeks for what I felt like was violating the rules. Yes, my supposed 'hatred' for Brian still means that I had to suspend Jeffy's account for 2 weeks (not to mention a handful of other posters I outright banned for breaking the rules against Brian). Jeffy's account was reinstated yesterday.
Part of the issue is that a lot of Jeffy's posts were with regards to criticizing Brian. I think my members don't expect *that* much criticism of one teacher by one poster. Jeffy is allowed to post on my forum now, but I find that since he has his own forum where he can criticize Brian as much as he pleases, the members here more or less 'expect' that.
For me and my forum, it would be like coming into a steakhouse and see a menu filled with seafood. Nothing really 'wrong' with that per say, but not what the customer expects.
3JACK
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Post by Jeff Martin on Jan 30, 2012 11:54:28 GMT -5
Jeff, you're not a golf instructor correct? Why should anyone take what you say about golf swng instruction anymore seriously than the local weatherman? What's your knowledge level, handicap, etc? Not trying to be combative. Just trying to understand where you are coming from. And why did you leave richie's site? Lurker- Richie already addressed the suspension question. It was a good catalyst to start this site. Everything happens for a reason! Great question: "Why should anyone take what you say about golf swng instruction anymore seriously than the local weatherman?" We don't expect any member to accept anybody's opinion at face value. That isn't how we work. Did you read the forum rule? And the recommendation to buy V1 software or something similar? And the tips on posting YouTube videos and stills? Every opinion here needs to be backed up by evidence, meaning videos or stills in most instances. Then forum members can judge based on the quality of the evidence. Then it doesn't matter who the opinion is coming from. Make sense? Jeff
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Post by Lurker on Jan 30, 2012 23:48:28 GMT -5
Fair enough. Thanks for the reply.
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Post by golfdad on Jan 31, 2012 8:07:56 GMT -5
Jeff, you're not a golf instructor correct? Why should anyone take what you say about golf swng instruction anymore seriously than the local weatherman? What's your knowledge level, handicap, etc? Not trying to be combative. Just trying to understand where you are coming from. And why did you leave richie's site? That is actually a good question. I cannot imagine someone who is not a golf teacher teaching golf or a non-violinist teaching violin. It is insane if not impossible. But. But then if you look at what Jeff has been through or any material on golf he has posted, and study the opposing opinions to his posting, you realize that they have not question his understanding or abilities to grasp and present concepts, but simply picking on his background of not being a pro or other superficial non issues. It is clear to everyone that Jeff is here to share his opinions on golf and golf instruction. On that level, I think he is doing an amazing job. There is no denial that he is a cogent and wacky writer, fun to read. Arguing with him without your stars aligned and marbles stacked is basically pissing in the wind. Jeff is one bad ass honey badger.
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Post by teeace on Jan 31, 2012 8:21:53 GMT -5
And I seem to be on the black list also now by Kevin. I'm treating people so badly in all forums... fine.
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Post by golfdad on Jan 31, 2012 8:24:29 GMT -5
And I seem to be on the black list also now by Kevin. I'm treating people so badly in all forums... fine. you also exhibit black and white covering, but you are basically cuddly like a panda
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